Comments on: Pry Yourself Loose and Listen

By: Barry Miles

Barry Miles — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:27:14 +0000

Gnaoua magazine was published in Tangier but printed in Antwerp, Belgium. Some years ago I looked at the dossier of papers and proofs connected with the printing of the magazine which were for sale by an Antwerp rare book seller and there was no mention of an offprint. Had there been I am sure I would have taken note and tried to find a copy. Of course the printer’s dossier may not have been complete but I would suggest that the offprint is a later bootleg.

By: SJC

SJC — Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:40:04 +0000

When it is noon in Purgatory it is dusk in Morocco on the Atlantic

By: jed

jed — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:14:49 +0000

Jim,

Just saw these posts. Thanks so much for clearing up the extra paper mystery. I would love it if you went through all the posts and provided some inside printing commentary. I come at this from a collector and really am lacking in terms of printing knowledge.

I dont know the details of how this offprint came about. It is usually dated as 1964 which is the year of the magazine itself.

By: Jim Pennington

Jim Pennington — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:48:12 +0000

The cut paper at 6/7 is a ‘hook’ for the stitches to go through so that a saddle-stitched pamphlet of folded sheets can have an odd extra 2pp.
This is indeed a rare item…it would be a nice touch if it could be authenticated as having been printed and finished by hand in Tangiers. The paper looks right.
Jim Pennington at aloes books

By: jim pennington

jim pennington — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:28:20 +0000

That cut edge between pages 6 & 7 is the extra bit of paper needed when you a bind a booklet using stitches at the fold between pages. You need this “hook” when the number of pages is not a multiple of 4pp (i.e an odd number of leaves). Pry these pages loose and you’ll find there’s an odd leaf of 2pp for 5/6. In the photo the stitch is hidden behind the hook.
I am talking like an expert printer and booklet maker… ‘cos I am. Jim ..from Aloes Books.
PS Jed… this is such a good site!!

By: bigcrux

bigcrux — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:57:52 +0000

I was going to use Dead Star as my argument for A-LISTING this mutha! But I may concede to the subtle gradations of the offprint…

By: jed

jed — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:20:42 +0000

I have always considered it an offprint of the Gnaoua material, so I treat it like the Letter of a Master Addict which is an offprint of the British Journal piece. Like the Master Addict, it is a separate edition from the original journal (which is C2, so the Offprint is listed under C2). Likewise I would consider the Pry Yourself a separate edition from the original magazine. So in Schottlaender, Gnaoua is C76, the offprint is listed under that.

The first time I ever saw the Pry Yourself was in the Nelson Lyon catalog and they list it as an offprint. I have always gone with that rather than considering it a chapbook or pamphlet like Nova Broadcast The Dead Star that reprints the My Own Mag appearance, which would seem to me to be another possibility. The Pry Yourself, unlike the Nova Broadcast Dead Star but like the Master Addict, is rather plain and simple, which makes think offprint. That said there is unlike the Master Addict an attempt at production values and presentation in Pry Yourself.

What do you think?

By: bigcrux

bigcrux — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:12:49 +0000

Jed,
Where does this fit bibliographically speaking?

By: bigcrux

bigcrux — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:57:20 +0000

AMAZING!

By: Ted

Ted — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:49:46 +0000

I see what you meant about the cut between pages 6 & 7 Jed. Perhaps it was merely a paper fault on the part of the printer/binder, an elongated sheet excised. As the saying goes, “All good things come to those who wait.”