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		By: Susan Doran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Doran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2015 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi -- I was really looking forward to seeing some of the poems from Fuck You - No 5, Vol 8 . Have they been permanently taken down? Is there any possibility of you emailing me one in particular? thanks for your consideration!
Susan Doran
San Francisco]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi &#8212; I was really looking forward to seeing some of the poems from Fuck You &#8211; No 5, Vol 8 . Have they been permanently taken down? Is there any possibility of you emailing me one in particular? thanks for your consideration!<br />
Susan Doran<br />
San Francisco</p>
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		By: nancy ellison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nancy ellison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nancy ellison ... 
  still alive
  still applauding the sunset
  still loving...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nancy ellison &#8230;<br />
  still alive<br />
  still applauding the sunset<br />
  still loving&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To quote Carol Berge, “Thank You”!

I&#039;ll just throw in my 2 cents by saying that I&#039;d buy a FY collection reprint in a minute. Maybe a  couple of minutes if it winds up being really expensive...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Carol Berge, “Thank You”!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just throw in my 2 cents by saying that I&#8217;d buy a FY collection reprint in a minute. Maybe a  couple of minutes if it winds up being really expensive&#8230;</p>
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		By: flux		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[marvelous - thanks for scanning and posting - i didn&#039;t know ferrini was a contributor - i used to give him his mail in gloucester

liberate the xerox machine, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marvelous &#8211; thanks for scanning and posting &#8211; i didn&#8217;t know ferrini was a contributor &#8211; i used to give him his mail in gloucester</p>
<p>liberate the xerox machine, eh?</p>
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		By: Paul Rickert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Rickert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is a legendary 35 dollar buy Jed. I enjoyed it cover to cover. Thanks for posting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a legendary 35 dollar buy Jed. I enjoyed it cover to cover. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		By: jed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ian,

With the McClure, the grid and the decision to physically cut, Burroughs&#039;s Warning Warning Warning Warning in My Own Mag #4 comes to mind.

https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.04.04.jpg

What is really interesting about that publication is that Nuttall responded in Issue 6.

https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.06.01.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>With the McClure, the grid and the decision to physically cut, Burroughs&#8217;s Warning Warning Warning Warning in My Own Mag #4 comes to mind.</p>
<p><a href="https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.04.04.jpg" rel="ugc">https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.04.04.jpg</a></p>
<p>What is really interesting about that publication is that Nuttall responded in Issue 6.</p>
<p><a href="https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.06.01.jpg" rel="ugc">https://realitystudio.org/images/bibliographic_bunker/jeff_nuttall/my_own_mag/my_own_mag.06.01.jpg</a></p>
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		By: ian macfadyen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ian macfadyen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A real feast, Jed, and the McClure is fascinating, part of a &#039;60s and &#039;70s philosophy and aesthetic of grids, games and cut-outs. Over the years I came across a number of copies of SEED (Harmony Books, 1973), edited and produced by Shaykh Nooruddeen Durkee, but the 480 reversible photo cards and the 64 reversible paper hexagrams in the GAMES section were always incomplete, having been partly punched out or cut out. I finally found a complete edition. Likewise, I eventually acquired a copy of Do It Yourself Fluxfest Presents Yoko Ono &#038; Dance Co., created by Ono and George Maciunas, with a grid of 20 images designed by Maciunas, which appeared in Fluxus Newspaper No. 7, February 1, 1966, to be used either as a fold-out poster or cut up and used as individual cards - the latter was often the fate of the 20 images by Maciunas and the 58 sections of the accompanying grid of the &#039;Propositions For One Page By Ben Vautrier 1965&#039;. The actual PHYSICAL cutting out of material is related to Gysin and Burroughs&#039; cut-up technique - you have to DO IT, not just think about it. The SEED games and Ono&#039;s grids (the Dance piece would be seminal for her work) were treated as creative play, inspiration through permutation, and so too with McClure&#039;s Cut-Out Cards - the poem as Tarot deck, a set of samples for the creation of many poems. Of course, to really get the point and engage with such processes was to destroy the original work - the invited, participatory entropy of scissors. Ciao, Ian XXXX

P.S. By the way, my Yoko Ono is framed on the wall - the very opposite of what was intended by the
grid instructions and the format. And I&#039;ve seen another original version hanging in a gallery -
the most transitory of publications may mutate into a recognized art work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A real feast, Jed, and the McClure is fascinating, part of a &#8217;60s and &#8217;70s philosophy and aesthetic of grids, games and cut-outs. Over the years I came across a number of copies of SEED (Harmony Books, 1973), edited and produced by Shaykh Nooruddeen Durkee, but the 480 reversible photo cards and the 64 reversible paper hexagrams in the GAMES section were always incomplete, having been partly punched out or cut out. I finally found a complete edition. Likewise, I eventually acquired a copy of Do It Yourself Fluxfest Presents Yoko Ono &amp; Dance Co., created by Ono and George Maciunas, with a grid of 20 images designed by Maciunas, which appeared in Fluxus Newspaper No. 7, February 1, 1966, to be used either as a fold-out poster or cut up and used as individual cards &#8211; the latter was often the fate of the 20 images by Maciunas and the 58 sections of the accompanying grid of the &#8216;Propositions For One Page By Ben Vautrier 1965&#8242;. The actual PHYSICAL cutting out of material is related to Gysin and Burroughs&#8217; cut-up technique &#8211; you have to DO IT, not just think about it. The SEED games and Ono&#8217;s grids (the Dance piece would be seminal for her work) were treated as creative play, inspiration through permutation, and so too with McClure&#8217;s Cut-Out Cards &#8211; the poem as Tarot deck, a set of samples for the creation of many poems. Of course, to really get the point and engage with such processes was to destroy the original work &#8211; the invited, participatory entropy of scissors. Ciao, Ian XXXX</p>
<p>P.S. By the way, my Yoko Ono is framed on the wall &#8211; the very opposite of what was intended by the<br />
grid instructions and the format. And I&#8217;ve seen another original version hanging in a gallery &#8211;<br />
the most transitory of publications may mutate into a recognized art work.</p>
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		By: Hayes Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hayes Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jed, your report inspired me to order a reasonably priced copy of Fuck You, No.5/Vol.6, April/May 1964 that is missing the cover and 1st page. Although I have a copy of the FY WSB&#039;s Roosevelt After Inauguration, I don&#039;t have any other FY publications, so having even a rough copy of FY, A Magazine of the Arts will be a treat. Maybe you could help me get a scanned copy of the missing cover &#038; 1st page. I totally agree with you on Floating Bear. I have about half the original run and the McGilvery edition, which is great for both reading and reference. And, while I would purchase a complete basic reprint of C: Journal of the Arts in a heartbeat, I doubt whether a basic black and white reprint of the My Own Mag run would due justice to Jeff Nuttall&#039;s eccentric publication with its colors, cutouts, burn holes, inserts, etc. Although I would prefer a reprint of FY that includes pages printed on colored paper, I definitely would pick up a basic reprint for its content alone. Unfortunately, these three runs have high page counts and would be expensive to produce in a nice edition like the McGilvery Bear (500+ pages and 4.6 pounds), especially with such a limited audience in this day and age.  Believe it or not, Laurence McGilvery still has copies of his 1973 print run of the Bear available for sale today. Nevertheless, I think what could make such productions more viable is if they also produced digital versions of these publications that are available as downloads. For example, some people would rather pay $30 for a download of Semina Culture than pay $50 for the book, and now that copies of the book sell for $150, the digital version would be even more attractive these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, your report inspired me to order a reasonably priced copy of Fuck You, No.5/Vol.6, April/May 1964 that is missing the cover and 1st page. Although I have a copy of the FY WSB&#8217;s Roosevelt After Inauguration, I don&#8217;t have any other FY publications, so having even a rough copy of FY, A Magazine of the Arts will be a treat. Maybe you could help me get a scanned copy of the missing cover &amp; 1st page. I totally agree with you on Floating Bear. I have about half the original run and the McGilvery edition, which is great for both reading and reference. And, while I would purchase a complete basic reprint of C: Journal of the Arts in a heartbeat, I doubt whether a basic black and white reprint of the My Own Mag run would due justice to Jeff Nuttall&#8217;s eccentric publication with its colors, cutouts, burn holes, inserts, etc. Although I would prefer a reprint of FY that includes pages printed on colored paper, I definitely would pick up a basic reprint for its content alone. Unfortunately, these three runs have high page counts and would be expensive to produce in a nice edition like the McGilvery Bear (500+ pages and 4.6 pounds), especially with such a limited audience in this day and age.  Believe it or not, Laurence McGilvery still has copies of his 1973 print run of the Bear available for sale today. Nevertheless, I think what could make such productions more viable is if they also produced digital versions of these publications that are available as downloads. For example, some people would rather pay $30 for a download of Semina Culture than pay $50 for the book, and now that copies of the book sell for $150, the digital version would be even more attractive these days.</p>
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		By: bigcrux		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigcrux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So instead of working to build a complete run of a little mag, you will first have to work to complete a complete little mag...at least you will be fully occupied for the next century...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So instead of working to build a complete run of a little mag, you will first have to work to complete a complete little mag&#8230;at least you will be fully occupied for the next century&#8230;</p>
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		By: jed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BigCrux,

I was happy to see the McClure intact.  Looking through a Peace Eye catalog I saw that Sanders was selling individual pages of Berrigan&#039;s C A Journal of Poetry as standalone pieces.  It got me to wondering if certain mimeos like Fuck You or C will ever be sold like illuminated manuscript pages cut out from the original magazines.  This has occured with the Mad Motherfucker issue and the Couch cover.  As the issues get rarer and rarer this just might happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigCrux,</p>
<p>I was happy to see the McClure intact.  Looking through a Peace Eye catalog I saw that Sanders was selling individual pages of Berrigan&#8217;s C A Journal of Poetry as standalone pieces.  It got me to wondering if certain mimeos like Fuck You or C will ever be sold like illuminated manuscript pages cut out from the original magazines.  This has occured with the Mad Motherfucker issue and the Couch cover.  As the issues get rarer and rarer this just might happen.</p>
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