wikid yeah i like yor ideas both of ya,,,i really like the proposition that burroughs use of nonlinear style would 'aid' in the audience thinknig in a nonlinear fashion...thats a well nice point, ok but back to my joyce/burroughs conflict, i still am ambiguously reserved about burroughs actual intelectual ability to express such philosohical obsevations, i guess though thats just a question of poetic politix...reading in more to his work..?does anyone know of any nonfiction texts which identify his interest in certain lingustic realsm of postmodern ideologies???im gunna chek out the job as suggested by someone kindly,,,:)
i guess im starting to realise that maaaybe im not as aesthetically engaged in burroughs maybe beaucause of some of his own interests and this is shading my appreication of his work..what dya think?dont get me wrong i appreciate the task of reading burroughs and certain aspects of his work are beautifull just in terms of words...whereas someone like joyce is far more obviously intelligent and twists the stability of language, his work is far more obviously postmodern (chaos theory etc too)(ok finnegans wake is)
sorry im just rambling, josh said:
'Joyce maintained a narrative, kept cause/effect logic (as you stated), allowed for character development, choose a specific setting etc... even in his experimental works such as Finnegan's Wake. Burroughs, on the other hand, abandons those characteristics in his experimental works, especially Naked Lunch and the Nova Trilogy. It can be said that where Joyce was expanding the format Burroughs was attacking it.'
and yeah thats a good way of exploring this, and i like the attaking structur part.. and josh said'If these experiments fail (I don't think that they do) in any way its that they are not readily accessible to a wide audience and defy definitive literary criticism. When you say "too obscure to actually gain any insight into social criticism" I think you have a point. Burroughs insight must be sought after actively and he must be trusted completely. Burroughs work demands complete trust that he knows what he's doing and what he talking about. ' curious, how do you feel his expereiments do not fail?out of interest,if tey do not fail what social crit can be gained outa this?,,, its interesting, is this idea dependent on subjective expereince?i mean i agree, to me though the effectivness of his texts lies in some rejection of stability yeah, but i personally respond to the poetics of his work and the way in which he rejects the stabilty of stable literary modes of beauty for instance(i guess subjective etc) like layers of reality levels and the shifts in conscisousness, i still maintain what isaid in my intial post which didnt seem to be understood, in his raw poetic brutality, which ironically everyone has confirmed in the consequent posts,,,maybe you all just dont get my use of words.. ha how ironic... sorry to ramble on, i am just blurting out my ideas for inspiration....