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 Post subject: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:40 pm 
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 00787.html

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The home-made drug that Oleg and Sasha inject is known as krokodil, or "crocodile". It is desomorphine, a synthetic opiate many times more powerful than heroin that is created from a complex chain of mixing and chemical reactions, which the addicts perform from memory several times a day. While heroin costs from £20 to £60 per dose, desomorphine can be "cooked" from codeine-based headache pills that cost £2 per pack, and other household ingredients available cheaply from the markets.

It is a drug for the poor, and its effects are horrific. It was given its reptilian name because its poisonous ingredients quickly turn the skin scaly. Worse follows. Oleg and Sasha have not been using for long, but Oleg has rotting sores on the back of his neck.


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:18 am 
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christ, its like his worst nightmare come true.....


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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turns the skin scaley?

obviously not a worthy vessel..... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:44 am 
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I wonder if desomorphine will ever catch on in the US.

The story of how "crocodile" took off in Russia reminds me of how crystal meth became prevalent in the US: the government cracks down on one drug (marijuana, heroin), and users compensate by synthesizing a far worse one from OTC ingredients.


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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I wonder if desomorphine will ever catch on in the US.

The story of how "crocodile" took off in Russia reminds me of how crystal meth became prevalent in the US: the government cracks down on one drug (marijuana, heroin), and users compensate by synthesizing a far worse one from OTC ingredients.


As I understand it, desomorphine isn't really the issue -- it's the incredibly crude process that they use to obtain it. On another site, someone ostensibly knowledgeable in chemistry said that this method would yield perhaps 30% pure desomorphine, with some VERY nasty leftovers....


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:00 am 
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Anybody really care if junkies get eaten alive? That pic made me want a kebab...


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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Anybody really care if junkies get eaten alive? That pic made me want a kebab...


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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Graham Rae wrote:
"MOOOORRREEEE DRUGGGSSSS!!!"

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hahaha. never watched someone you care about destroy themselves with drugs have you??
prick.


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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jacksalmon wrote:
Graham Rae wrote:
"MOOOORRREEEE DRUGGGSSSS!!!"

:lol:


hahaha. never watched someone you care about destroy themselves with drugs have you??
prick.


Yes I have, actually, unfortunately, heroin, from start to finish. And another with alcohol too. You deal with it eventually by sad acceptance and jet black humor, cos it's too damned painful otherwise. Don't put words in my mouth. You don't know me.


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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Wikipedia offers some interesting details - apparently the pure form even saw medical use:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine

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It was used in Switzerland under the brand name Permonid, and was described as having a fast onset and a short duration of action, with relatively little nausea or respiratory depression compared to equivalent doses of morphine.


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The drug is easily made from codeine, iodine and red phosphorus in a similar process to the manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine, but desomorphine made this way is highly impure and contaminated with various toxic and corrosive byproducts. Since this mix is routinely injected immediately with little or no further purification, "Krokodil" has become notorious for producing severe tissue damage, phlebitis and gangrene, sometimes requiring limb amputation, in long-term users.


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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Graham Rae wrote:
jacksalmon wrote:
Graham Rae wrote:
"MOOOORRREEEE DRUGGGSSSS!!!"

:lol:


hahaha. never watched someone you care about destroy themselves with drugs have you??
prick.


Yes I have, actually, unfortunately, heroin, from start to finish. And another with alcohol too. You deal with it eventually by sad acceptance and jet black humor, cos it's too damned painful otherwise. Don't put words in my mouth. You don't know me.


fair enough. it was just that you "over egging" your reply that got to me...


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 Post subject: Re: Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
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edward_de_vere wrote:
I wonder if desomorphine will ever catch on in the US.

The story of how "crocodile" took off in Russia reminds me of how crystal meth became prevalent in the US: the government cracks down on one drug (marijuana, heroin), and users compensate by synthesizing a far worse one from OTC ingredients.


It would be the perfect means of liquidating a society's junky population. Hell, enforced use on prisoners could help alleviate over-crowding in prisons.

More than that, show that mangled arm to anyone who supports the war on drugs and you've pretty much won that argument. No matter what you do, junkies are here to stay. Take away their fix and they'll show you how resourceful they can be:

Coexistence, ladies and gentlemen...


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