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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:37 pm 
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No, I mean how are the letters different, not proofs versus finished copies! I am chuckling here.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:42 pm 
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Oh, sorry about that. Well, it's edification for anyone who needs to know.

Broadly speaking, the first volume featured many letters that Burroughs addressed to Ginsberg, often with intent to seduce. They're raucous and funny, like Naked Lunch. The letters in the second volume are addressed to a wider array of correspondents. Guys like Ginsberg and Kerouac drop off and others like Brion Gysin and Antony Balch make frequent appearances. The concerns are dramatically different. Burroughs writes about the cut-up, scientology, interactions with publishers and little mags. You (Graham) will dig that there are some family letters. Bill Morgan, who edited vol 2, deliberately followed the m.o. that Oliver Harris established for vol. 1, so there's continuity in the editorial approach.

I'm only part way through but it's been really enjoyable to read. If I was blurbing the book I would say with complete sincerity that it's a must-have.

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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:35 pm 
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So there's only letters from two years? That could mean quite a few companion volumes. Is the size of the tome comparable to the first one? Sorry to keep bombarding you with questions but, of course, I'm genuinely interested.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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RealityStudio wrote:
Oh, sorry about that. Well, it's edification for anyone who needs to know.

Broadly speaking, the first volume featured many letters that Burroughs addressed to Ginsberg, often with intent to seduce. They're raucous and funny, like Naked Lunch. The letters in the second volume are addressed to a wider array of correspondents. Guys like Ginsberg and Kerouac drop off and others like Brion Gysin and Antony Balch make frequent appearances. The concerns are dramatically different. Burroughs writes about the cut-up, scientology, interactions with publishers and little mags. You (Graham) will dig that there are some family letters. Bill Morgan, who edited vol 2, deliberately followed the m.o. that Oliver Harris established for vol. 1, so there's continuity in the editorial approach.

I'm only part way through but it's been really enjoyable to read. If I was blurbing the book I would say with complete sincerity that it's a must-have.


Burroughs' falling out with Kerouac is well-known (they came to dislike one another's political views, particularly over Kerouac's support of the Vietnam war). Another broken friendship that I wonder about is Greg Corso, who helped Burroughs assemble Naked Lunch, but who from the 60's on had little to do with him. Any indication in the letters as to why Corso and Burroughs didn't get along?

Incidentally, the change in tone among the letters between the 50's vs. later 60's and 70's isn't that surprising, there was also a major shift in Burroughs' writing style, themes, and worldview between the time that he wrote Naked Lunch and his later work. His early works were unsentimental, often intentionally disgusting acccounts of drug use and sexuality, the later writings were more sentimental and self-celebratory.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:15 pm 
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thanks for explaining what you meant regarding the book cover.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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I thought that Corso was a frequent guest at the bunker?


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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Frank wrote:
I thought that Corso was a frequent guest at the bunker?


Really? I remember reading somewhere that Burroughs and Corso had a falling out and didn't have much to do with one another in later years, but I could be wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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I don't have the book in front of me but I don't remember noticing any Corso letters. There is some early 1960s correspondence between WSB and Corso at the Berg (where about 75% of the volume 2 letters come from). I know I've seen other correspondence between them from the 1980s that was for sale someplace. I don't recall that they ever had a falling out, though they may have drifted apart as friends are wont to do.

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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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edward_de_vere wrote:
Another broken friendship that I wonder about is Greg Corso, who helped Burroughs assemble Naked Lunch, but who from the 60's on had little to do with him. Any indication in the letters as to why Corso and Burroughs didn't get along?


He hated mooches.

Realitystudio, I dont want to bombard you with questions (tho I'm sure we're hanging off your everyword), any Kerouac letters make Vol. 2? If so, what's the latest?


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:42 pm 
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My error was to use the word frequent when I mentioned Corso visiting Burroughs at the bunker.

There was just one visit discussed in the Bockris book and even then Burroughs was complaining of Corso's outrageous behavior bringing the police over.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:59 am 
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Paul Sempschi wrote:
any Kerouac letters make Vol. 2? If so, what's the latest?


Because my copy is a proof, it doesn't have an index. I skimmed through the table of contents, though, and didn't see any letters addressed to Kerouac. The Burroughs archive at the Berg doesn't even have much Kerouac correspondence. There are two postcards from JK to WSB (1961 & 1966). I recall seeing them and, if my memory isn't mistaken, one of them was telling WSB that it was a mistake to have edited "Word." Probably that was the 1961 postcard, since "Word" was published in July 1961 in Swank:

http://realitystudio.org/bibliographic- ... -in-swank/

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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:34 pm 
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It wasn't a mistake to edit Word. The elongated version in Interzone, with all the pathological bells and whistles does nothing, to me, to improve it. I love the writing in it anyway though.


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:11 pm 
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The New York Times reviews the new volume of Burroughs letters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/books ... wanted=all

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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
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ah, that's out now, keep forgetting! Great review there from the n.y.t


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 Post subject: Re: James Grauerholz re Burroughs letters 1959-1961
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:53 pm 
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received my copy today. Waited a long time for this. When was volume one published, about 20 years ago or more?


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