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		<title>By: Graham Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good to me. You can always contact us through this site when it gets done with. I&#039;ll let Supervert tell you if he&#039;s interested in  an accessible version of the perversion verse you&#039;re writing or not. As for psychoanalytic jargon, well, don&#039;t sweat it, I ain&#039;t a dummy, I can figure it out. Melancholic preservations and anal sadism are a coupla my fave pathology paths! And if you&#039;re looking for a next pathology study after WSB, might I recommend Eminem? His new album is, after all, a psychiatrist&#039;s wet dream...talk about an insane mother fixation, shit...

G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good to me. You can always contact us through this site when it gets done with. I&#8217;ll let Supervert tell you if he&#8217;s interested in  an accessible version of the perversion verse you&#8217;re writing or not. As for psychoanalytic jargon, well, don&#8217;t sweat it, I ain&#8217;t a dummy, I can figure it out. Melancholic preservations and anal sadism are a coupla my fave pathology paths! And if you&#8217;re looking for a next pathology study after WSB, might I recommend Eminem? His new album is, after all, a psychiatrist&#8217;s wet dream&#8230;talk about an insane mother fixation, shit&#8230;</p>
<p>G.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Godley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Godley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, be advised that the essay/article will be a bit thick with psychoanalytic jargon (lots of stuff about melancholic preservations and anal sadism). But I would be interested in writing a more accessible version of the essay for this website. Sound good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, be advised that the essay/article will be a bit thick with psychoanalytic jargon (lots of stuff about melancholic preservations and anal sadism). But I would be interested in writing a more accessible version of the essay for this website. Sound good?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Godley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Godley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Graham, I would be glad to. I&#039;m writing an article on Burroughs that will hopefully be published sometime early next year. My teacher/mentor is in the process of looking for a publisher for me and a group of other students doing psychoanalytic stuff at the moment. But I&#039;d be glad to send you a copy, official or unofficial when it comes out. Also: would you happen to know of any way to get ahold of James Grauerholz? He would be an excellent resource for this project, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Graham, I would be glad to. I&#8217;m writing an article on Burroughs that will hopefully be published sometime early next year. My teacher/mentor is in the process of looking for a publisher for me and a group of other students doing psychoanalytic stuff at the moment. But I&#8217;d be glad to send you a copy, official or unofficial when it comes out. Also: would you happen to know of any way to get ahold of James Grauerholz? He would be an excellent resource for this project, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jamie. I think I speak for Supervert as well when I say that you can feel free to quote this in your dissertation if you want - just give us a mention and send us a copy! I personally would be fascinated by a psychoanalytic account of WSB&#039;s life, though I get the feeling that&#039;s an incredibly difficult job to undertake. Good luck with that!

Graham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jamie. I think I speak for Supervert as well when I say that you can feel free to quote this in your dissertation if you want &#8211; just give us a mention and send us a copy! I personally would be fascinated by a psychoanalytic account of WSB&#8217;s life, though I get the feeling that&#8217;s an incredibly difficult job to undertake. Good luck with that!</p>
<p>Graham.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Godley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Godley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this and the references page as well. I am currently writing a psychoanalytic account of Burroughs&#039; life and writing that will become part of my dissertation at SUNY Buffalo, where I am attending this fall as a 1st year PhD student. This article was very helpful in rounding out a few details of Burroughs&#039; psychical life involving his relationship with Laura.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this and the references page as well. I am currently writing a psychoanalytic account of Burroughs&#8217; life and writing that will become part of my dissertation at SUNY Buffalo, where I am attending this fall as a 1st year PhD student. This article was very helpful in rounding out a few details of Burroughs&#8217; psychical life involving his relationship with Laura.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Graham,  I came upon the notes from Gary Lee Nova and was pleased to see that he is still about.  I still carry his &quot;Small Electrical Storm In Element County&quot; - thought what he was doing back then was exquisite and hope he is doing well.  I&#039;d be glad to hear from him.  I continue selling books as always -many thousands of books listed on Abe in my Am Here Books listings. Love to all, Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Graham,  I came upon the notes from Gary Lee Nova and was pleased to see that he is still about.  I still carry his &#8220;Small Electrical Storm In Element County&#8221; &#8211; thought what he was doing back then was exquisite and hope he is doing well.  I&#8217;d be glad to hear from him.  I continue selling books as always -many thousands of books listed on Abe in my Am Here Books listings. Love to all, Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your interesting reminisces, Gary. They all help flesh out LLB and her relationship to her son, and what he thought of her. The picture of her on the settee is from Volume 3, and it&#039;s a good and revealing snap. I must admit, talking like this makes me wonder about LLB and want to know even more about her. Maybe that&#039;s something I will get around to sometime. We&#039;ll see. 

Interesting what a random article can throw up, eh?

G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your interesting reminisces, Gary. They all help flesh out LLB and her relationship to her son, and what he thought of her. The picture of her on the settee is from Volume 3, and it&#8217;s a good and revealing snap. I must admit, talking like this makes me wonder about LLB and want to know even more about her. Maybe that&#8217;s something I will get around to sometime. We&#8217;ll see. </p>
<p>Interesting what a random article can throw up, eh?</p>
<p>G.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Lee-Nova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Lee-Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that most, if not all of the key parties have passed on and are therefore unable to litigate, this bit of trivia may be of interest, given the content of the exchanges taking place between Graham and myself about these Laura Lee Burroughs books.

In the early mid-1970s, after receiving copies  of &quot;A Descriptive Catalogue Of The William S. Burroughs Archive,&quot; from Richard Aaron of  AM HERE BOOKS, I became more than obsessed with several of the photographs of WSB reproduced in that book.

I designed a suite of silk screen prints based on the photos, - Gysin&#039;s photos for the most part, if not all.

I wrote to Richard Aaron in the hope of getting copyright clearance to proceed with my mad plans.

Richard generously gave me the sought after permission and also sent to me an actual photo of the reproduction on the pageÂ immediately prior to page one of the Catalogue.  An interesting and lengthy correspondence then developed between Richard Aaron and myself.

Life went on.

Then, in 1975, I found the LLB Flower Arranging books in a junk/second-hand store.

I became enchanted with the picture of Laura, - I forget which volume - showing her in a beautiful dress/gown(?), primly seated on the settee behind the glass coffee table and the flower arrangement, holding a frosty bottle of Coca Cola in her aristocratic hands.

I decided to somehow include this image in my suite of silk screen prints and mentioned this idea in a letter to Richard Aaron, including a colour xerox of the image of the page from the flower arranging book.

Richard Aaron swiftly replied, advising me to forego any such plan for the picture of Laura in my project, as William was &quot;extremely sensitive&quot; and, if memory serves, &quot;protective&quot; about his mother.

Needless to say to some, I dropped the Laura picture idea from the project immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that most, if not all of the key parties have passed on and are therefore unable to litigate, this bit of trivia may be of interest, given the content of the exchanges taking place between Graham and myself about these Laura Lee Burroughs books.</p>
<p>In the early mid-1970s, after receiving copies  of &#8220;A Descriptive Catalogue Of The William S. Burroughs Archive,&#8221; from Richard Aaron of  AM HERE BOOKS, I became more than obsessed with several of the photographs of WSB reproduced in that book.</p>
<p>I designed a suite of silk screen prints based on the photos, &#8211; Gysin&#8217;s photos for the most part, if not all.</p>
<p>I wrote to Richard Aaron in the hope of getting copyright clearance to proceed with my mad plans.</p>
<p>Richard generously gave me the sought after permission and also sent to me an actual photo of the reproduction on the pageÂ immediately prior to page one of the Catalogue.  An interesting and lengthy correspondence then developed between Richard Aaron and myself.</p>
<p>Life went on.</p>
<p>Then, in 1975, I found the LLB Flower Arranging books in a junk/second-hand store.</p>
<p>I became enchanted with the picture of Laura, &#8211; I forget which volume &#8211; showing her in a beautiful dress/gown(?), primly seated on the settee behind the glass coffee table and the flower arrangement, holding a frosty bottle of Coca Cola in her aristocratic hands.</p>
<p>I decided to somehow include this image in my suite of silk screen prints and mentioned this idea in a letter to Richard Aaron, including a colour xerox of the image of the page from the flower arranging book.</p>
<p>Richard Aaron swiftly replied, advising me to forego any such plan for the picture of Laura in my project, as William was &#8220;extremely sensitive&#8221; and, if memory serves, &#8220;protective&#8221; about his mother.</p>
<p>Needless to say to some, I dropped the Laura picture idea from the project immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>35 YEARS? You could have written the article yourself, Gary, and saved a lot of heartache and waiting!

I&#039;m only kidding. It&#039;s very odd. When I was reading those books, and they can be read quickly so certain stylistic tics and tremors and themes come through very clearly and are easy to remember, I got weird moments of deja vu when I came across lines like the one above.

If LLB valued books and reading and writing, as she clearly did, she must have passed that word-love on down to her favorite son; after all, Mort was his dad&#039;s favorite, so she would have her own wee darling. And those books are the work of an accomplished writer, not just some word-dabbling dilettante. She must have practiced a lot to get as good as she did. So maybe WSB read some of her stuff  and retained it, consciously or otherwise. I wonder how she came to be an authority in flower arranging, and how Coke came to know of her. Wonder if Ivy Lee had a hand in helping her out there.

As I keep saying, we&#039;ll never know the answers to some of these questions, but it&#039;s interesting to think through and construct possible hypotheses about. I wonder what WSB thought himself when he read the works, thanks to you. Now THAT would have been interesting to know, if he had made the same connections we have here. Maybe not. A writer is often the poorest judge of his own work, and if WSB was so close to his mother he may not have been able to see their similarities. But I&#039;ll bet he appreciated the artistry and clean lines involved in their writing. 

And we are DEFINITELY (literally) the product of our mothers.

G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>35 YEARS? You could have written the article yourself, Gary, and saved a lot of heartache and waiting!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only kidding. It&#8217;s very odd. When I was reading those books, and they can be read quickly so certain stylistic tics and tremors and themes come through very clearly and are easy to remember, I got weird moments of deja vu when I came across lines like the one above.</p>
<p>If LLB valued books and reading and writing, as she clearly did, she must have passed that word-love on down to her favorite son; after all, Mort was his dad&#8217;s favorite, so she would have her own wee darling. And those books are the work of an accomplished writer, not just some word-dabbling dilettante. She must have practiced a lot to get as good as she did. So maybe WSB read some of her stuff  and retained it, consciously or otherwise. I wonder how she came to be an authority in flower arranging, and how Coke came to know of her. Wonder if Ivy Lee had a hand in helping her out there.</p>
<p>As I keep saying, we&#8217;ll never know the answers to some of these questions, but it&#8217;s interesting to think through and construct possible hypotheses about. I wonder what WSB thought himself when he read the works, thanks to you. Now THAT would have been interesting to know, if he had made the same connections we have here. Maybe not. A writer is often the poorest judge of his own work, and if WSB was so close to his mother he may not have been able to see their similarities. But I&#8217;ll bet he appreciated the artistry and clean lines involved in their writing. </p>
<p>And we are DEFINITELY (literally) the product of our mothers.</p>
<p>G.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Lee-Nova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Lee-Nova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It most definitely does &quot;just sound like something WSB would or could have written, especially that last line?&quot; And I am ever so grateful for the corroboration you have provided to my own experience of her texts. (I&#039;ve been waiting almost 35 years for a discussion with someone about this!)

If I consider &#039;nurture&#039; as a force flowing freely from Mothers towards their offspring, I reckon that William was very definitely taught something about the value of writing and literature by Laura.

As for &quot;...picked up certain stylistic elements of his personality, and thus his writing, from her...&quot; I am moved to consider the &#039;nature&#039; force of genetics flowing from parent(s) to child and finding myself believing that YES, this is entirely possible, even probable.


Boys! (All you boys out there), I think we should always remember, we&#039;re the product of our Mothers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It most definitely does &#8220;just sound like something WSB would or could have written, especially that last line?&#8221; And I am ever so grateful for the corroboration you have provided to my own experience of her texts. (I&#8217;ve been waiting almost 35 years for a discussion with someone about this!)</p>
<p>If I consider &#8216;nurture&#8217; as a force flowing freely from Mothers towards their offspring, I reckon that William was very definitely taught something about the value of writing and literature by Laura.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;&#8230;picked up certain stylistic elements of his personality, and thus his writing, from her&#8230;&#8221; I am moved to consider the &#8216;nature&#8217; force of genetics flowing from parent(s) to child and finding myself believing that YES, this is entirely possible, even probable.</p>
<p>Boys! (All you boys out there), I think we should always remember, we&#8217;re the product of our Mothers.</p>
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